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Real estate: the ultimate game of risk and reward. It’s the biggest investment most people ever makeFortunes are won and lost every day. How do you stay ahead of the game? Who’s buying, who’s selling and why? You need an edge. Boroughs & Burbs. This podcast is your secret weapon, giving you the insider knowledge and strategies you need to succeed in the high-stakes and cutthroat world of real estate. The Boroughs are New York City.The Burbs are wherever you are: Connecticut, Austin, the Hamptons, Carolinas, Florida and beyond. From Palm Beach to Palm Springs, Manhattan to Malibu, we travel the country pressing the experts in every luxury market to expose the pain, find the deals, and occasionally predict the future. Don’t settle for mediocrity - tune in to Boroughs & Burbs Thursdays 3pm Eastern and start dominating your market.
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Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Every Room Tells a Story with Philip Gorrivan & DJ Carey | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 132
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
Thursday Apr 04, 2024
In Season 4, Episode 132 of Boroughs & Burbs: The National Real Estate Conversation, hosts John Engel and Roberto Cabrera welcome Philip Gorrivan, author of Authentic Interiors, Rooms That Tell Stories, and DJ Carey, Editorial Director of C&G Media Group and Editor in Chief of CTC&G. They discuss how authentic design, narrative, and material choices shape the mood of a home and influence luxury buyer perception.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7XmW2375R4
Related Episodes
• Ep 133 – The Long Island Show with Maria Babaev, Enzo Morabito, Tom Tripodi & Peter Halpin
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk5Pe8scbcU
• Ep 154 – Decorate Like a Decorator with Meghan De Maria & Courtney Yanni
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1CqdPlgrSo
• Ep 99 – Kips Bay Decorator Show House with Sergio Mercado, Roric Tobin and more
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFvWcAzOV4I
• Ep 43 – Benjamin Moore’s Color Expert & Top Designers Talk Color Trends
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF4QVT3VbrY
• Ep 157 – Does the Kitchen Make the Home with Bob Bakes & Eric Tchorz
Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nCZutyz2R0
Keywords
#interior #storytelling #luxury #design #CTC&G #Cottages&Gardens #authentic #interiors #design #narrative #materiality #color #strategy #highend #residential, #luxurybuyers
Hashtags
#InteriorStorytelling #LuxuryDesign #PhilipGorrivan #DJCarey #CTCG #CottagesAndGardens #AuthenticInteriors #DesignNarrative #ColorStrategy #HighEndResidential #BoroughsAndBurbs #JohnEngel #RobertoCabrera

Thursday Mar 28, 2024
Luxurious St. Barths with Wimco's Doug Foregger | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 131
Thursday Mar 28, 2024
Thursday Mar 28, 2024
In this episode, Roberto broadcasts on location from Saint Barthélemy (St. Barths) with guest Douglas Foregger of WIMCO Real Estate to unpack what makes this French Caribbean island a perennial draw for travelers, buyers, and investors. We go beyond the postcards—talking how people really live and invest on St. Barths, what the island feels like across seasons, and how beaches like Gouverneur and Saline differ from the lively scene around Gustavia and St-Jean. From travel logistics (ferry vs. puddle jumpers and that wild short-runway approach) to beach clubs and day-to-day rhythms, Roberto and Doug paint a practical picture of island life drawn straight from the ground.
For those eyeing property or a long stay, Doug and Roberto discuss villa rentals and seasonality (e.g., low season options around the $5k/week mark and December weeks often around $15k/week, with two-week minimums over Christmas/New Year’s), plus the realities of permitting and building on a mountainous, highly regulated island. They touch on construction budgets and how indoor square footage understates the cost of generous outdoor living areas; Doug notes that serious builds can reach the four- to low-seven-figure range and that locals often prefer purchasing land with a permit in hand to avoid uncertainty. If you’re weighing when to go, where to stay, or whether to buy, this is your field guide to St. Barths—equal parts lifestyle and hard-nosed real estate.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp7aUUmN0OA. YouTube
Links & Social
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Guest: WIMCO Real Estate – https://www.wimcorealestate.com • Douglas Foregger (LinkedIn) – https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-foregger-054291b/
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Hosts: John Engel (IG) – https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • Roberto Cabrera (IG) – https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • John Engel (LinkedIn) – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/ • Roberto Cabrera (LinkedIn) – https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes (international focus)
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“We’ll Always Have Paris” | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 115. YouTube
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Navigating the French Riviera (Côte d’Azur) | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 111. YouTube
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Is Panama Really for Sale? | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 170. YouTube
Keywords: #StBarths #realestate #SaintBarthélemy #villas #St-Barth #rentals #French #Caribbeanproperty #island #permitting #Gustavia #Gouverneur #Saline #WIMCO

Thursday Mar 21, 2024
ADU: The Perfect Housing Solution? | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 130
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
Thursday Mar 21, 2024
In this deep-dive on Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs), hosts John Engel and Roberto Cabrera sit down with Sheri Koones, David Melton, and Christine Osterwalder to unpack what’s really driving the ADU movement—and how homeowners, builders, and municipalities can get it right. We cover the policy backbone in California (why the state guarantees approval of at least one 800-sq-ft ADU with 4-ft side/rear setbacks, regardless of lot coverage and FAR), how owner-occupancy rules were removed statewide (and what that means for financing and operations), and the new opt-in pathway for separate ADU sales via condominium maps—plus where local adoption is actually happening.
From there, the panel gets practical: designing within 800 sq ft without feeling cramped (programming, daylighting, storage, and outdoor “rooms”); factory-built and panelized options to compress schedule and control cost; budget ranges and the line items that bust them (sitework, utilities, access, and permitting); and use cases—from multigenerational housing and caregiver suites to rental income and neighborhood infill. We also scan how other states are following California’s lead, where the bottlenecks still are (parking, height, and discretionary review), and how to position an ADU for long-term value instead of just short-term rent.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr4cwgY2-FA
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-130-adus-the-perfect-housing-solution/
Links & Social
Guests:
• Sheri Koones — https://www.sherikoones.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheri-koones-1966a55/
• David Melton (ATL ADU CO) — http://atladuco.com • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-melton-61a0919/
• Christine Osterwalder (Unity Homes) — https://unityhomes.com/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christineosterwalder/
Hosts:
• John Engel — IG: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — IG: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes:
Keywords: #ADU #accessorydwellingunit #smallhomes #prefab #panelizedconstruction #800sqft #California #ADUlaw #owner-occupancy #condo-ization #multigenerationalhousing #rentalincome #UnityHomes #ATLADUCO #SheriKoones.

Thursday Mar 14, 2024
Real Estate Staging | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 129
Thursday Mar 14, 2024
Thursday Mar 14, 2024
Staging isn’t just swapping pillows—it’s a strategy. In this episode, John Engel and Roberto Cabrera sit down with Lisa Hynes (Stage to Show) and Mike Lubin (Brown Harris Stevens) to break down what staging actually is, how to scope it, and where it reliably moves the needle. We cover how to decide which rooms to stage (and when to do the whole home), how to prioritize budget across furniture rental, art, accessories, paint/touch-ups, delivery and install, and how to measure effectiveness using days on market and list-to-sale outcomes. You’ll hear the psychology behind a powerful first impression (flow, focal points, color discipline, lighting, curb appeal), how to read a staging proposal (what should and shouldn’t be in it), and when staging isn’t the answer (and what to do instead). If you’re listing this season, this is your playbook for presentation that converts.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgaN12UYFA
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-129-real-estate-staging/
Links & Social
Guests:
• Mike Lubin — https://www.bhsusa.com/real-estate-agent/mike-lubin • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikelubinnyc/
• Lisa Hynes (Stage to Show) — https://www.stagetoshow.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-a-hynes-rosenfeld-72b3669/
Hosts:
• John Engel — Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes (verified)
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Every Room Tells a Story (Philip Gorrivan & DJ Carey) | Ep. 132
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Why Designers, Architects & Builders Should Collaborate | Ep. 147
Keywords: #realestatestaging #homepresentation #stagingproposal #listingstrategy #buyerpsychology #daysonmarket #list-to-sale ratio #StagetoShow #BrownHarrisStevens

Thursday Mar 07, 2024
Thursday Mar 07, 2024
In this on-location episode from **Ft. Lauderdale, Florida—the global capital of yachting—**John Engel and Roberto Cabrera sit down with Julie Jones of Douglas Elliman and Bob Denison of Denison Yachting to explore the fascinating intersection between luxury yachts and luxury real estate.
We dig into the big questions: Are superyachts the next real estate investment class? Where do yacht ownership and property markets overlap? And when do the economics of ownership versus charter really make sense? Bob and Julie pull back the curtain on charter trends (what percentage of yachts are available and how often they’re booked), hot global markets for both luxury homes and yachts, and how buyers of trophy properties increasingly cross-shop mega-yachts as lifestyle investments.
If you’ve ever wondered how the superyacht lifestyle fits into the broader luxury market, this is your inside guide—straight from two of the top names in high-end brokerage.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd6q9OtBxuc
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-128-luxury-boat-edition/
Links & Social
Guests:
• Julie Jones — Douglas Elliman: https://www.elliman.com/agent/julie-jones-betteridge • IG: https://www.instagram.com/juliejonesbetteridge/
• Bob Denison — Denison Yachting: https://www.denisonyachtsales.com/ • IG: https://www.instagram.com/denisonyachting/
Hosts:
• John Engel — IG: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — IG: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes
Keywords:
#luxuryyachts #superyachts #yachtcharter #luxuryrealestate #DouglasElliman #DenisonYachting #FtLauderdale #luxurymarkets #yachtinvesting #boroughsandburbs

Thursday Feb 29, 2024
What’s in Store for 2024 with Scott Durkin | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 127
Thursday Feb 29, 2024
Thursday Feb 29, 2024
On this leap year edition of Boroughs & Burbs, John Engel and Roberto Cabrera are joined by Scott Durkin, President & CEO of Douglas Elliman Real Estate, for an exclusive conversation about the future of real estate and the strategic direction of one of the nation’s largest brokerages.
Scott shares candid insights on:
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How AI and technology are shaping brokerage operations and the client experience.
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The evolution of real estate teams and the shift from transactional to relationship-driven sales.
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Expansion markets and how Douglas Elliman is positioning itself nationally and internationally.
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The role of marketing and brand identity in a crowded marketplace.
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How client expectations are changing, and what strategies brokers need to adopt to deliver sustainable growth.
This is a must-listen for anyone curious about where the industry is headed, and how a top brokerage leader envisions the future.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ol9gPfWWgA
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-127-scott-durkin-ceo-douglas-elliman/
Links & Social
Guest:
• Scott Durkin — Douglas Elliman Bio • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-durkin-53226313/
Hosts:
• John Engel — IG: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — IG: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes (verified)
Keywords:
#DouglasElliman #ScottDurkin #realestate #AI #marketing #brokeragetrends #realestateteams #luxurymarkets #boroughsandburbs

Thursday Feb 22, 2024
Thursday Feb 22, 2024
In this special episode of Boroughs & Burbs, John Engel and Roberto Cabrera explore the rise of West Palm Beach, Florida, as it transforms into “Wall Street South.” With major investment banks, hedge funds, and private equity firms setting up shop, the city is rapidly becoming a financial hub rivaling New York.
Our guests — Kelly Smallridge, President & CEO of the Business Development Board of Palm Beach County, and Randi Binder, top agent with Douglas Elliman Palm Beach — share first-hand insights on:
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Why financial firms are choosing Palm Beach over other markets.
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How CityPlace and luxury developments like The Bristol have fueled a downtown revival.
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The impact of hedge fund migration on the local job market, economy, and real estate demand.
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How West Palm Beach competes with other growth centers while carving out its own identity.
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The future of “Wall Street South”, from upcoming projects to infrastructure and lifestyle.
This episode captures the momentum behind Palm Beach’s transformation into a global business and lifestyle destination.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbbNtsuRs20
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-126-wall-street-south/
Links & Social
Guests:
• Kelly Smallridge — BDB Palm Beach • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-smallridge-30a7587/
• Randi Binder — Douglas Elliman Palm Beach • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randibinderrealtorfl/
Hosts:
• John Engel — IG: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — IG: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
Related Episodes (verified)
Keywords:
#WallStreetSouth #WestPalmBeach #financialhub #hedgefundmigration #CityPlace #PalmBeachRealEstate #DouglasElliman #BusinessDevelopmentBoard #luxurymarkets #boroughsandburbs

Thursday Feb 15, 2024
Evolving Skylines: Manhattan’s New Development Market | Boroughs & Burbs Ep. 125
Thursday Feb 15, 2024
Thursday Feb 15, 2024
In this episode, John Engel and Roberto Cabrera are joined by Stephen Kliegerman and Jason Thomas of Brown Harris Stevens Development Marketing to dissect the Q4 2023 Manhattan New Development Market Report and uncover what’s really happening in NYC’s most watched market segment.
The conversation unpacks the key takeaways:
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Median PPSF rose 2.7% QoQ (but dipped 0.5% YoY), signaling demand for certain high-quality developments despite mixed economic signals.
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Median sales price climbed 1.9% QoQ and 7.8% YoY, underscoring sustained appetite for premium product.
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Sponsor sales fell 29.3% and total sales volume dropped 38.9%—indicating a cooling in transaction velocity, even as pricing holds.
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The Upper West Side captured 20.14% of all new development sales, while Midtown East surged in PPSF and pricing, and the Upper East Side saw notable softening.
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A headline transaction: a Central Park Tower residence closed at $18M ($5,374 PPSF), reinforcing the continued strength of Manhattan’s luxury tier.
Stephen and Jason go beyond the numbers—exploring what these shifts mean for developers, investors, and end users in 2024, and how the pipeline of new product could reshape Manhattan’s skyline.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9X9cTQZGVc
Episode page: https://www.boroughsandburbs.com/e/boroughs-burbs-125-new-development/
Links & Social
Guests:
• Stephen Kliegerman — Bio • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-kliegerman-8180589
• Jason Thomas — BHS Development Marketing • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-thomas-05008b1b3/
Hosts:
• John Engel — IG: https://www.instagram.com/jengel199/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jengel/
• Roberto Cabrera — IG: https://www.instagram.com/rcabrera1/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberto-cabrera-4619845/
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Keywords:
#Manhattan #NYC #newdevelopment #CentralParkTower #UpperWestSide #UpperEastSide #MidtownEast #BrownHarrisStevens #realestatemarket #boroughsandburbs #DouglasElliman #JohnEngel #TheEngelTeam #BillionairesRow
